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even if you get it only once a month (which is unlikely, if you are constructive on chat - for example you got it after not even a week) it would be still worth like 100 "old" rainbot rains I kinda like the focus on quality as compared to quantity.

You might want to have a look here, there is no more reason to speculate

What you need to take into account is that one tip of the new RainBotNG is currently worth 5000 sat, that's roughly like getting 100 rains from the previous incarnation.. The hope is that the focus on people contributing to chat will lead to a nicer place for all of us to spend our time at.

You might want to have a look at the FAQ here: also this post might shed some light on it:

First let me say that I don't speak in the name of Stake but in the name of hui. If we undo this mute we will have hundreds of threads of less reputable people claiming life is not fair and that they are having a bad time and that we should reduce the mute (which is over in large part already btw). What I was trying to say with "we can only lose" is that no matter how we act we can only lose: Treat regular players the same as everyone according to the chat rules: heartless Close both eyes and let things slip with regulars that we act upon on newbies: favourism Reduce the mute: creating an example causing everyone to publicly discuss their mutes stating wrong facts and blame mods causing an atmosphere where an unfair life excuses breaking the rules Not reducing the mute: unempathic to the situation of the player Explaining how things stated as facts are wrong: searching for excuses Not explaining how things look from our side: not listening to needs and demands of players, no interest Stating all the details so everyone understands where the decision is coming from: breach of privacy, no respect for the feelings of players Not stating the details: being blamed anyway And so on. That's what I meant with "we can only lose whatever we do". I'm out of the discussion since... I can only lose. P.S.: It would have been easier if bmg would have used the regular way of dealing with mute appeals - the appeals section on forums. There are things that shouldn't be discussed in public imho.

The problem is we as mods can only lose and we don't get any sympathies. If people lie about us it's not worth even a mention, if we skip mutes for regulars where others get muted for we are accused of favourism, if we don't we are heartless. As I said it wasn't my mute, but for me it was important to explain the perspective from our side. Obviously it's pointless to think that people that try their best to make Stake a nice place for all of us deserve any understanding or a slice of the empathy users that claim false things in order to look better get so easily. And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you rarely see any of us commenting publicly on mutes.

It looks different if you blend in the rains and look at the messages that are immediate responses to those. Anyway, let's not start to deeply analyze anyones chat too much in public, I wouldn't like this happening to myself and i think bmg doesn't deserve this either. About Hoff I was referring to the insult bmg quoted with the screenshot and claimed he did get away with it which is somewhat different than a 200 hour mute. Anyway, I was trying to explain how there might be a different perspective to it and that every coin has two sides, if you don't agree that's perfectly fine with me.

So I wasn't the one who muted you and I am sorry for the problems and pain your fighting with these days but I looked into the case and can't let your post unreplied. You have a lot of sympathies on our side, and it's true that you earned a good reputation on the site. However we are regularly called out when we're not treating everyone the same so we do our best to apply the same rules to everyone. The statement about not using alts I leave uncommented, however I believe that in general you are a honest person. About the other player you cited what you state is not true, Hoff got muted for a full 200 hours a bare 5 minutes after the statement happened (and it would have been instant if a Mod would have seen it right away, of course). About your own mute your citation is only partly, in fact you rambled after each and every rain for hours and in between the rest of your chat didn't look exactly constructive either. For the sake of completeness here a screenshot: I've seen other players muted longer for less and while I am sorry it came to this I can understand the pressure mods are under to treat everyone the same and thus mute even people that they have sympathies for. I hope that my statements above show that there might be a different perspective to your story as well.

Can I bet on Tetris?

You guys may want to have a look at The problem with the old rainbot was that it was abused a lot and made people spam and use multiple accounts in chat and using all kinds of tricks to get rained on. This resulted in rains not happening to the players that deserve it because they make stake a better place but instead gave incentive to scammers, spammers and tricksters. As so often in the past (remember faucet?) it's been a few ruining it for everyone. The new RainBotNG works differently in that it tries to prefer users which don't try to cheat and actually contribute to a nice chat. The overall amount of tips per day is larger than it was before, but it is given out in large chunks to give incentives to those that actually make stake a nicer place for all of us. Have a look at the FAQ posted above to get an idea how to make it more likely that you will be recognized as a contributing player, too

ModBot is a bit picky, it only works if you use "!profit"

While the developers behind the new RainBotNG want to remain in the background I managed to get some answers to questions about it that I saw in the chat and thought it might be useful to share them here: What is RainBotNG? The purpose of RainBotNG is to give some incentive to those players that contribute to a nice, funny and enjoyable chat experience. It has a secret bankroll, classified algorithm and biased choices. Why is it named RainBotNG? As some of you might know there was a rain-bot before, the NG stands for "Next Generation". It was named like that to make clear that it is something different, new that aims to serve the community better than the former one did . What do I need to do to in order to get tipped? In general, try to make Stake chat a nice place. Obey the chatrules, be active but not spammy in chat. What should I avoid in order to get tipped? While the algorithm that choses who is getting tips is confidential there are some things you can avoid to raise your chances of being tipped: Avoid spammy, short messages, like "gl", "hi", "sad day", "nice", "wow", etc... Avoid using alts, especially avoid talking with more than one Avoid getting muted by following the rules Avoid thanking RainBotNG or asking it for tips Avoid using the wrong language for a room Instead, be constructive in chat and make your messages meaningful, funny or nice to read. Are the tips random? You could think of them as being random, although there is some algorithm working in the background that tries not to tip beggars/spammers and other people who don't care about community rules. Basically try to be a good community member and your chances of getting tip raise with every "quality" message. Who funds RainBotNG? We managed to get the owners interested in the idea and for the time being they are funding the Bot. Does it make a difference in which room I talk? No, RainBotNG treats the whole chat as one big room. How many tips can I get? There is no overall limit a person can get although the algorithm aims for an even distribution of tips. How do I see if/when I got tipped? Tips are announced in all rooms when they happen and you also see them regularly in your tiplog just as tips from any other user. When is it running? Currently tips are being done in regular intervals as long as the Bot has a balance. I've been tipped while offline, why? The algorithm takes many factors into account but RainBotNG has no way of knowing if you are currently online. Sometimes it might tip you for your past actions without you actually needing to be there in the moment the tip is happening. Isn't it a nice surprise to have a chance to come to the site and see your balance raised? Is there a log of tips? Currently there is no such thing but we're thinking about making some data available in the future. Is there a blacklist? There is no such thing as a black- or whitelist. If players have the feeling they are being left out they should just keep contributing to the chat in constructive ways and sooner or later RainBotNG will notice them. Thanks to the developers for answering the questions and thanks to everyone contributing to a nice chat for all of us!

Just an update: The option to unhide the profit so the command works has been made available and in case you didn't set it correctly the ModBot will reply with instructions on what to do, so at least everyone can get the data now. As mentioned a nicer option directly integrated into the frontend is being worked on.

read the message you quoted again, especially this part: It's only a workaround until a better way is done that is currently being worked on.

I made a command !profit that shows you your current bet profits now. It's available via PM to ModBot. For some users who had their public profits hidden it won't work yet but that is being worked on as we speak.