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Some stats and strats for Keno

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Hello fellow Stakers,

In this topic I wanted to share some of my experience with the game Keno. First of all, I think Keno is the most profitable game in Stake and it holds more opportunities than the other games. That is why I chose Keno to create a strategy to begin with. After choosing the game, I have studied all payouts and their probabilities and considering my balance I decided that playing 2 numbers is the best way to go. While playing 2 numbers, you are essentially playing %44,24 which is the most out of all keno probabilities that make profit. That shortens the maximum losing streak you will have. As you all know, 1 hit gives 1.90x, 2 hits give 4.50x. So if I plan my strategy for hitting 1.90x, every 4.50 hit I make will be my profit. This goes like this; you start with some bet, then increase it at least %111, so that when you hit 1, you get everything back. When I set it to %115, the remaining is my profit again. So, while the balance steadily but slowly increases, when you hit a 4.50x after a long losing streak, your profit is very nice. While playing this, I kept some stats along. These stats are approximately for 1,5 million bets;

-20 losing streak is the most I have seen so far with 2 numbers.

-Starting with 1 sats, 20 losing streak means winning at 21st bet which requires betting 0.02382476 and your losses along the way summed up is 0.02071718, which means you need at least 0.04454195!! for this. 

-Longest losing streak so far for 1 number is 45, which was with number 19 (not that it matters). 

-The most appearing number is number 1 with 348678 appearances and with a 1200 difference with the second number which was 31 

-The least appearing number was 36 with 340419 appearances and with a 200 difference with the second least appearing number which was 28. 

-Most profit I made with this strategy in a day was 0.022 (sadly not btc, I was trying the strategy with doge)

These are mostly what I have so far. Also when playing this strategy we should also keep the "When you increase your bet, you lose" myth in mind. This doesn't happen because the Stake is rigged or something, this mostly happens because when we see that we are winning, we tend to get greedy and increase the bet. But this also means that we were on a winning period(not streak) and as we get closer to the end of that period we decide to bet more. Also, statistically our "maximum losing streaks" have to get longer in time since they can not get shorter.  So, the longer we play the more we have to decrease our minimum bet and probably do it at the same moment when we want to increase our bet. And I would like to add that the strategy I mentioned above is for a really long play. Hope you get something out of these. 

Please play safe, Good Luck and have a nice day

 

EDIT: I am using a script for this and in it, the first bet is not increased %115 rather is %115 of it because it still provides profit and adds 1 more bet to max losing streak you can have. So if you don't use a script like that consider 0.04454195 as your number for 19 losing streaks not 20. 

Edited by Kjaka

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Thats alot of info, but keep in mind that your stats will not always or if at all mirror other peoples stats. If you average that many reds or greens with whatever setting you choose will not be the same for other players. if thats the case, then it would be too easy to just share one's stats to everyone and predict the outcome. which would make casino bankcrupt, but that will never happen. the system will eventually learn your patterns and try to beat it, also, every casino games has a bar it has to reached before it pays out, abd that is impossible to predict or keep count of. ;/

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At the start you said that you think keno is the most profitable gamemode, I know that it's your opinion but it's basically very impossible to hit 90x or even 100x, which are the two highest multipliers that you  can get in keno since it's almost impossible to predict all 10 that are going to hit. And also that even though you got these stats, everyone can have different ones and there is a low chance that they will get the exact same losing streak as you.

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On 12/30/2018 at 11:10 AM, KiXxnTRiXx said:

Thats alot of info, but keep in mind that your stats will not always or if at all mirror other peoples stats. If you average that many reds or greens with whatever setting you choose will not be the same for other players. if thats the case, then it would be too easy to just share one's stats to everyone and predict the outcome. which would make casino bankcrupt, but that will never happen. the system will eventually learn your patterns and try to beat it, also, every casino games has a bar it has to reached before it pays out, abd that is impossible to predict or keep count of. ;/

Well of course you are right, this was not to predict the outcome of the games, rather it was more like to get a sense of it. I felt like this info would be much more of use then what we get with !odds. For example, now when i am playing keno, i know that a single number may not occur more than 45 times in a row and that wouldn't mean its rigged. That wouldn't also mean it is happening because i am playing it. Because that 45 streak occurred while i wasn't on it. 

 

On 12/30/2018 at 12:06 PM, blurrijs said:

At the start you said that you think keno is the most profitable gamemode, I know that it's your opinion but it's basically very impossible to hit 90x or even 100x, which are the two highest multipliers that you  can get in keno since it's almost impossible to predict all 10 that are going to hit. And also that even though you got these stats, everyone can have different ones and there is a low chance that they will get the exact same losing streak as you.

Well, the reason i find it profitable is not the 100x or 90x, many games has more multipliers than that like mines, plinko or chartbet. The reason is, i always get 17x very easily in keno and when playing martingale it really pays nice. Of course the profitability of a game is always debatable :) and like I said above, I wrote those so that people do expect getting a 45 losing streak on a number rather than wishful thinking and so that they play safer.

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Strategies for a game where to hit the multiplier huge ones like 17x is very hard and if you make startegies lets say for mines where 17x is not rare and easily achieve able then that can be used easily but not in case of Keno.

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Nice strat you have there , but in my opinion it take a while to profit that way where as using for number for 22x payout is easier and quicker to achieve ❤️❤️

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On 1/10/2019 at 4:06 AM, Kjaka said:

Well of course you are right, this was not to predict the outcome of the games, rather it was more like to get a sense of it. I felt like this info would be much more of use then what we get with !odds. For example, now when i am playing keno, i know that a single number may not occur more than 45 times in a row and that wouldn't mean its rigged. That wouldn't also mean it is happening because i am playing it. Because that 45 streak occurred while i wasn't on it. 

 

Well, the reason i find it profitable is not the 100x or 90x, many games has more multipliers than that like mines, plinko or chartbet. The reason is, i always get 17x very easily in keno and when playing martingale it really pays nice. Of course the profitability of a game is always debatable :) and like I said above, I wrote those so that people do expect getting a 45 losing streak on a number rather than wishful thinking and so that they play safer.

Heh, thats the case though. You will see numbers light up while youre not on it.. even chunks of patterns, you will notice lights up over and over.. as soon as you switch out to try and catch those, your previous numbers, lights up.. lol., the system is a troll.. when you back to your previous one.. the system will light up the other ones again... o.O this is also the reason why i dont change every number.. i may move 1 number at a time, but never as a whole.

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On 12/15/2018 at 1:53 PM, Kjaka said:

20 losing streak is the most I have seen so far with 2 numbers.

-Starting with 1 sats, 20 losing streak means winning at 21st bet which requires betting 0.02382476 and your losses along the way summed up is 0.02071718, which means you need at least 0.04454195!! for this. 

-Longest losing streak so far for 1 number is 45, which was with number 19 (not that it matters). 

-The most appearing number is number 1 with 348678 appearances and with a 1200 difference with the second number which was 31 

-The least appearing number was 36 with 340419 appearances and with a 200 difference with the second least appearing number which was 28. 

-Most profit I made with this strategy in a day was 0.022 (sadly not btc, I was trying the strategy with doge)

All this is true, but bear in mind that it is based on your seed pair. A seed pair has millions of possible games (infinite actually), so each result over the long term will differ depending on the seed. The only thing all seed pairs have in common, is that 1% goes back to the casino. So always use autobetting and scripts with caution, the casino always wins in the long run :)

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Great job with the stats and breaking down the information for us. I'll have to try this strategy and see how it plays put using Bitcoin. Typically when I play keno I notice if I start with a bet and decide to raise it, I'll automatically ill stop winning.. Then as soon as I bring the bet back to what it was, all of a sudden I start winning again. Hmmm Interesting..lol

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10 numbers 

3 - 6 - 10 - 18 - 20 - 21 - 23 - 31 - 35 - 38 

265%

After 4500 bets the ratio was around 2200:2300 [Win:Loss]

Small lose streaks [Up to around 7-10 (I have no statistics on this)]

Starting bet 10 [You can make it up to 10000 if you have a bigger balance, but it is not recommended]

Have a balance of at least 1.00000000 

I don't recommend playing with BTC

That's my strategy and I really like it :)

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