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Stake Scam? What is all the effort for?

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I can't deny how upset I am in this past 2 days due to all these guys and their "jokes" on chat, things like "Stake scam", "Eddie you need to refund me", "Eddie you will have to pay my lawyer" and all these shits you guys have been making fun of

With that said I have to ask.. what is the purpose of Stake Staff spending so much money and time to bring new users to the site if the first thing these users will read on chat are your shits? If you were a new customer coming to a Casino and would see the members saying that it is scam would you stay? I feel myself offended with such things happening because we are putting a lot of effort to make our community grow then the old community, that was supposed to help, is doing such things

No offense (and I don't really care if you feel offended) but if you are one of these guys doing these "jokes" I truly believe you are not worth the site we are working hard to build for you.. you are not the kind of people the site needs around

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1 minute ago, HumberRolls said:

Before I asked Eddie when I was new you had to refund my deposit but now not anymore, if I lose money I do not give a damn

When you are a new member and have doubts that's pretty normal to message a Mod, Support or even Staff member to discuss it but the case I am talking about are the old members that stay in chat talking 24/7 that Stake is scam.. I can't understand how in the earth they believe these are "nice jokes" to be done

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Posted (edited)

I know there's a lot of people that mess around in chat. I'm one of them. However I Totally agree with what your saying.  

 If it were my website or I had a hand in it I think I may feel offended by this.   Though Stake doesn't seem to care what people say about them.  I think I understand why.  

If stake was a scam or rigged, what do you think the first thing they would do to anyone accusing them of cheating? Warn them, mute them or even ban them.  

I think Stake not taking notice to these players only proves more that its as fair as fair gets around here. 

Edited by Asscorn | Mistake

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Bad losers are always going to blame the system and not themselves. My question to them is always: Why gambel if the site is a scam? Just save your money - go to another casino etc. Nobody is being forced to play here, so if you are not happy, move on :)

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19 minutes ago, williamshennie9 said:

Bad losers are always going to blame the system and not themselves. My question to them is always: Why gambel if the site is a scam? Just save your money - go to another casino etc. Nobody is being forced to play here, so if you are not happy, move on :)

That's not the case here.. these guys don't say these shits because they are mad for losing or so, they say it all the time because for them that is just a joke, they seem to have fun talking these shits

Edited by Carollzinha

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I fully agree with you Caroll & i was present and saw said "jokes" for myself & reached out to you on dm & also appreciated what you said there, that being said i have noticed a few small trends over time, for me it is almost a year since i joined Stake & i love it, the trends i mention would be the normal guys who are in chat each day, messing with each other, making jokes, harassing the mods for fun etc, these guys are the backbone of chat and make a valuable contribution to the "vibe" of chat, then there are those who are new and say very little, some grow into chat over time & others stay relatively quiet, most, especially those who's native language is not English try hard in chat and will excuse themselves if they say something wrong, there is nothing wrong with any of this, then of course you get those who are constantly making nasty comments, poor jokes, are outright rude, insulting, derogatory, inflammatory and just plain rude, constantly saying Stake is rigged or a scam site etc & some being directly insulting to support and mods, Eddie etc, i am online 9 hours a day every day of the week and a little less on weekends, i have often had to deal with support on other sites for one reason or another and i can say with certainty that Stake support staff are the best in the world, friendly, helpful and willing to go that little bit further to help those with a problem or simply participating in chat, they make an effort to get to know people and are always super pleasant and have become one of my favourite parts of the site (Darko, that includes you, not just the girls ;) ), the fact that Eddie himself makes the effort to pop into chat and interact with people is virtually unheard of on 99% of sites & it seems to me people just dont appreciate what Stake as a site does for us, i agree with all the above comments and what others have said, if you dont like it simply leave or stay silent, as one of our many characters always says "leaving, never coming  back" so if you dont like Stake then just leave...

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Players do need to lash at something or to someone.. for all the downfall for losing..those 2 things are the site and owner.. you can take the comments as serious you want or ignore them.. even though some comments are rude fill with profanity and how a person would dare to say those words.. are literally just words.. yes mods and support mute the players that verbally abuse eddie on a constant giveaway.. in my opinion, if it bothered eddie he can mute or perm ban that person acc..if a loyal player have a bad day...and say words that surprises even support.. mod might give 1 or 2 hour mute..seems fair.. but eddie decides nope.. ban.. no one can do or say for the decision he made.. or a new player says less thing but mod perm mute him/her.. and eddie wasn't even phase for what was said.. then what.. all im saying is all words.. They still play here with alts..with all adjustment with rainbot spammers have to bet now.. as long eddie isn't phase.. let people say they wanna say... remember the ignore option is a click away..

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19 minutes ago, polor12 said:

Players do need to lash at something or to someone.. for all the downfall for losing..those 2 things are the site and owner.. you can take the comments as serious you want or ignore them.. even though some comments are rude fill with profanity and how a person would dare to say those words.. are literally just words.. yes mods and support mute the players that verbally abuse eddie on a constant giveaway.. in my opinion, if it bothered eddie he can mute or perm ban that person acc..if a loyal player have a bad day...and say words that surprises even support.. mod might give 1 or 2 hour mute..seems fair.. but eddie decides nope.. ban.. no one can do or say for the decision he made.. or a new player says less thing but mod perm mute him/her.. and eddie wasn't even phase for what was said.. then what.. all im saying is all words.. They still play here with alts..with all adjustment with rainbot spammers have to bet now.. as long eddie isn't phase.. let people say they wanna say... remember the ignore option is a click away..

maybe those who say that are people who just registered and were hit by a big lost I think it's very reasonable lol, it's usually only a beginner who says that, he might be very pushy to win big but he's not lucky

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1 minute ago, laron said:

maybe those who say that are people who just registered and were hit by a big lost I think it's very reasonable lol, it's usually only a beginner who says that, he might be very pushy to win big but he's not lucky

How I wish that was the truth.. but sadly those saying such things are old players that think these are "jokes" that must be said 24/7 on chat

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Even when it is true that reading "scam" on the chat may be a red alert for a newbie, it also shows that the chat is not heavy moderated or censored if a player have a  problem with a game, thus, bringing transparency. I mean, people who play on online casinos or do a heavy use of exchanges (high rollers and high traders) knows it is normal to have somebody angry with their loses shouting "Scam!" in any exchange or casino with a real free chat. If in the chat you read only good things, and the people who is angry is banned and dissapear without any explanation, beware!

So, the best thing to do is, when there is a guy screaming "scam" on chat, let the mod say him "contact support to solve it", showing to everybody that the casino really wants to know and solve the problems of the players.

Edited by Xylber

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3 hours ago, Carollzinha said:

I can't deny how upset I am in this past 2 days due to all these guys and their "jokes" on chat, things like "Stake scam", "Eddie you need to refund me", "Eddie you will have to pay my lawyer" and all these shits you guys have been making fun of

With that said I have to ask.. what is the purpose of Stake Staff spending so much money and time to bring new users to the site if the first thing these users will read on chat are your shits? If you were a new customer coming to a Casino and would see the members saying that it is scam would you stay? I feel myself offended with such things happening because we are putting a lot of effort to make our community grow then the old community, that was supposed to help, is doing such things

No offense (and I don't really care if you feel offended) but if you are one of these guys doing these "jokes" I truly believe you are not worth the site we are working hard to build for you.. you are not the kind of people the site needs around

Just some people can not lose. Trying to return money after their loss, they start to throw mud and accuse of swindling. These are not decent people. If you don't like it, don't play here.

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19 minutes ago, Xylber said:

Even when it is true that reading "scam" on the chat may be a red alert for a newbie, it also shows that the chat is not heavy moderated or censored if a player have a  problem with a game, thus, bringing transparency. I mean, people who play on online casinos or do a heavy use of exchanges (high rollers and high traders) knows it is normal to have somebody angry with their loses shouting "Scam!" in any exchange or casino with a real free chat. If in the chat you read only good things, and the people who is angry is banned and dissapear without any explanation, beware!

So, the best thing to do is, when there is a guy screaming "scam" on chat, let the mod say him "contact support to solve it", showing to everybody that the casino really wants to know and solve the problems of the players.

I am sorry but you also seem to don't understand that these are not angry people or so.. these are just retards (I can't find other word to describe it) who say these things "for fun".. I am not saying to mute everybody who says or it so but to punish people that try to have fun at such situation the whole day.

I agree that giving people the chance to tell what they want is important, this is what a chat stands for.. but there is a huge difference between having 1 or 2 users saying it now and then and have the same guys, that I can bet are the same person with alts (no wonder he is muted in his Stake main account and at bitvest site) saying it "for fun" during all the time he stays around.. these are not "jokes" that people should be saying "for fun", these are serious accusations that can ruin the image of any online site, doesn't matter if it is a casino or not

Edited by Carollzinha

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I'm not 24/7 here, but I'm not seeing anything unussual: the same people complaining about losing an impossible bet, then calling the "probability bot" which confirm it: "losing 20 times in a row is one in 99999 times", and crying about it in the chat. They were (and are) always on the chat, I found them harmless.

But, if we are talking about a person (or a group of people) who, in purpose, is trying to damage the image of Stake, then it is serious.... but be sure they are not going to stop by reading this thread  😐

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I don't agree with  people when they say that Stake is a scam and rigged or whatever else they are saying because If Stake were a scam or rigged then Myself along with quit a few players that are my friends wouldn't have won big the times that we have.  Also Stake is very giving to it's players from time to time.

However , People are going to say what they want to say weather we like it or not..  We are all adults here and even though some may act like children at times the only thing that you can do is ignore it or let the mods, support staff and admin handle it.

 

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Agreed i feel bad for stake and eddie in a way. Because if the old community says such harsh things about stake then where would the new community even come from after hearing such takes on stake by the old community.

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When you look at their join date, you can see that they are under a week old. Also it's obvious they are not english speakers and come from poor countries where education isn't always good. This causes them to have a very bad common sense and logic and quickly come to a conclusion without much thinking. I know it may sound racist, but it really isn't. It's a bias that everyone can see happening on Stake.

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