Bet verification chrome extension

[Lucas Holder 13]

UPDATE: Chrome Extension is available at https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/provably-fair/ahooddoodalfhhjfpdgcmkklhfefjdem

Long time lurker/gamer but new member here in the forum! Hope it's OK to make this kind of post here.

I wanted to share a project I am currently working on: a browser extension for verifying bets on Stake. It uses Rust/WebAssembly so it's blazing fast and lightweight  The UI is really ugly right now, it's very much a work in progress. When it's more polished, I will open source it on GitHub and release it on Chrome Web Store.

Just a sneak peak for now

 

Edited April 11, 2020 by Lucas Holder

[Seoulmate 160]

nice idea, good luck with your project

[Ali saher 364]

Ohh this is very nice you work in this project. I this this is positive thinking you do something. I hope you complete your project best of luck .

[sahil777 242]

very nice idea man, yes it will be very helpfull for everyone to check their bets if they have any doubt, and welcome at forum  you started with very usefull post hope your this project will be complete soon.

[Seoulmate 160]

you might consider some other functionality as I dont think repeat usage will be common on just a bet verifier function. Initially a new player may verify some bets to reassure themselves of the sites fairness, but after they confirm that these bets are legitimate they tend to assume everything is ok with the site, and don't feel a need to repeat that process.

Perhaps a martingale calculator, that tells players what the on loss percentage should be for any particular target multiplier.
For example if I am chasing a target of 10x, the plug in could tell me that my on loss should be 11.01%

[Lucas Holder 13]

Thanks for the warm welcome and constructive feedback everyone.

 

11 hours ago, Seoulmate said:

you might consider some other functionality as I dont think repeat usage will be common on just a bet verifier function. Initially a new player may verify some bets to reassure themselves of the sites fairness, but after they confirm that these bets are legitimate they tend to assume everything is ok with the site, and don't feel a need to repeat that process.

Perhaps a martingale calculator, that tells players what the on loss percentage should be for any particular target multiplier.
For example if I am chasing a target of 10x, the plug in could tell me that my on loss should be 11.01%

Interesting observation. I was actually thinking of more deeply integrating with Stake in version 2 of the extension and maybe make it possible to have each bet verified automatically.

Regarding martingale calculator, it seems like an interesting an idea but I will focus on finishing this first.

Here's my latest iteration (still ugly but added support for a few more games, current supported games are: Baccarat, Dice, Limbo, Hilo, Blackjack). 

Will keep posting updates in this thread.

[evet 192]

That's nice , nothing can satisfy a curious mind than a reliable verification. Goodluck with the project and I hope you won't have any problems in making it. 

[caveman2528 31]

thank you sir , grt info shared with us

[Seoulmate 160]

are you familiar with this project?

https://stake.betsesh.com/

 

[SLFJ 213]

Damn, good luck with this 😃 I believe this will take lots of time, because there's not a lot of verifiers here and especially a guy who's making a verifier for stake rolls, I'd clap for you, keep going.

[Lucas Holder 13]

I just open sourced the library I'm using for this (as well as a command line tool) 😀: 

The extension is still a work in progress!

[jamesbond 49]

Good to see an extension like this, will be very useful for stakers to build more trust on stake with a good verifying tool.  Wish you good luck.

[reebox 26]

I have a little understanding of what you mean, so this is an extension that can be installed on chrome and helps to verify the bet we have. I do not mind that the most important UI is easy to understand when using it.

[Lucas Holder 13]

2 hours ago, reebox said:

I have a little understanding of what you mean, so this is an extension that can be installed on chrome and helps to verify the bet we have. I do not mind that the most important UI is easy to understand when using it.

Yep exactly! I will publish a beta version of the extension in coming days. Hope you can try it and give me feedback on UI then.

[j240 73]

I like this idea and it will be easier to do bet verification when you are curious , i tried the bet validation and i cant understand a thing as im not a techie guy , that extension plus video tutorial can make it way easier. Hope your release a beta version soon!.

[Lucas Holder 13]

Hey everyone! Thanks again for the support and encouragement! As promised, the initial version of the extension is now available on Google's Web Store:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/provably-fair/ahooddoodalfhhjfpdgcmkklhfefjdem

Some screenshots:

Here's a short demo:

If you're wondering why it requires the "read browser history" permission, it's because when you go on Stake.com's bet verification page, the extension reads the tab's URL to pre-populate the fields to match those on Stake.com's verification page. For example:

 

Keep in mind that this is just a first version. I have big plans ahead!

Cheers,
Lucas

[BidaManEris 39]

Nice work! I hope the management will notice you on this one and get some recognition. You did a good job.

The only thing that I am wondering about this is that what makes it really different than using the site's verifier for it to gain more attention?

[Lucas Holder 13]

35 minutes ago, BidaManEris said:

Nice work! I hope the management will notice you on this one and get some recognition. You did a good job.

The only thing that I am wondering about this is that what makes it really different than using the site's verifier for it to gain more attention?

Thanks! It would be nice to be listed with the other tools in the verification page. Regarding your question, I will work on making it better over time, but at the moment, the big reason is trust. Let me get this out of the way: I have no reason to believe Stake is cheating its users and I don't mean to imply that at all.

That said, the beauty of "provably fair" gambling is that it allows players to gamble without having to trust the casino. So if you have absolutely no doubt that the casino is honest, there is no reason to verify bets. But if you have a little doubt or want to double check, you have the possibility to independently verify your bets to make sure you didn't get cheated. Using the casino's verification tool doesn't make sense because if they did cheat you, they could as easily cheat you with their verification tool. You therefore have to use a third-party, neutral verification tool.

That's where the Provably Fair extension comes into play. I have no affiliation with Stake and the verification library is open source so anyone (who knows programming) can verify that there is nothing fishy with the verification code: https://github.com/lucasholder/fair

I hope I explained this clearly, cheers!

[wyj1306 490]

I am not in the habit of playing this baccarat game, but I found this option very interesting because everything that concerns betting security is welcome, it is a good option to see if things are going smoothly, there will certainly be many people who will use this often.

[Nafis277 3]

You have done a very good project.you inspire everyone like me . I love your project.

Best of luck brother.

Go ahead...

[itconsults 2]

I am a newbie in this field. I don' t know about that. How this project will work? It is an app or chrome extension, please elaborate, I want more knowledge about that.

[Lucas Holder 13]

On 4/26/2020 at 4:39 PM, itconsults said:

I am a newbie in this field. I don' t know about that. How this project will work? It is an app or chrome extension, please elaborate, I want more knowledge about that.

I made this video on YouTube: 

Basically all you need to do is go on Stake's verification page and click on the extension's icon at the top of your browser. It will generate the game outcome using the client/server seed from Stake. You can then verify that the game outcome given by the extension matches the one Stake gave you.

Hope it helps. Let me know if it answers your question.

 

 

[Lucas Holder 13]

So, it seems very few people have tried the extension. I wonder if it's because people don't really care about verifying bets or something else. Any theories?

[Ghostnipple 32]

On 5/1/2020 at 10:55 PM, Lucas Holder said:

So, it seems very few people have tried the extension. I wonder if it's because people don't really care about verifying bets or something else. Any theories?

I don't really think players are overly concerned with bet verification, once they know its there, its enough for most.

Seoulmate mentioned this previously.

However the application you have made is very interesting for me as it shows how a seed result manifests across different games on Stake.

[Dan 1,809]

Cool little project, thanks for the contribution.