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Do you think that removing pms and friends was a good decision?

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Pms and friends were removed recently due to scamming and loans.I think that they should have let us pick the players that we want to pm and why would someone be that silly to give out a loan let me know what you guys think

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No this make stake unfun and fukin trash....

Yo I speak french, its my main language ... the only thing that i was able to do when THEY FUKING REMOVED FRENCH CHAT is pm my real friends there in  french..... now I need to talk via discodd or someshit that no evrybody use's im litterly done :)

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Stake has shown that they don't care about the community anymore. I used to love Stake, but honestly, they have shown that they don't give a **** about what we want.

Everyone told Eddie not to remove it, and guess what they did? Remove it. It's sad to see what was once a casino which valued player's input, now just does whatever it wants to maximise profit and decrease player satisfaction.

Give these comments a read, they offer great suggestions

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At first, I also thought that this is a really bad idea, as people actually talk in private and have friends and so on, but after a little thought I came to the point where I figured that this is what the forum is for. I think this move can be good so that the platform remains for gambling whereas the forum remains for bonding and communicating. There still are private messages here if you really want to say something to someone so that you won't obey to any rule. I think forum's PMs are too underrated.

Now let's measure pros and cons of removing private messages from Stake platform:

Pros:

- removing the spamming

- removing the begging

- removing the scamming

- removing the advertising to other platforms or even phishing platforms

- making a contrast between Stake as a betting platform and Stake Forum as a social platform

Cons:

- harder to reach out to people

- some "important" conversations have been lost

And that's all I can came up with. Now, let's actually try to counter-argue them and see if they are actually valid:

Removing the spamming: people still can spam on chat/forum BUT they will be immediately deleted by the mods as they already did (PMs where just another place for them to spam, removing PMs won't give them another place to spam, just one place in minus); you might say, yeah, but they can spam PMs on forum too BUT you can actually report a PM on Forum and an Administrator/Moderator can see it and remove it. Now you might say that this means that PMs on Forum aren't as private as we might think. Well, I don't know how to say it, but even the PMs on the platform weren't private at all. They were private only to the normal users, but for sure if really wanted, Administrators could actually see them (if they didn't implement it on the platform, there still is the database, and finding some messages in a database can be done in a few seconds with an easy query). So I'd say this is a valid and strong point.

Removing the begging: now, people won't be able to beg anymore, under any way. Chat - mute, Forum - mute, PMs - report -> mute. It's simple and easy and can't be countered.

Removing scamming/advertising: again, people won't be able to do this as doing it in Chat - mute, Forum - mute/ban, PMs - report -> mute/ban.

The contrast between Stake and Forum: it was nice having a chat right under your nose, where you could click on the player and immediately talk to him, getting a response instantly without any problem. Well, yeah, BUT, firstly there are the things above, secondly, Forum has the exact same function. You can send someone a Private Message, you can actually find him with the search bar from the top of the forum (which I doubt many use it as it is actually a contract with the devil and you'd sell your soul if you check if the topic has already been posted, but that's another talk for another topic) and send multiple Private Messages under multiple "threads". This way, you can talk "business" in one PM Thread and talk "s*#t" in another PM Thread, keeping it organized and nice.

Harder to reach out to people: well, as I kind of said above, the search bar has been implemented and it's actually pretty nice and more people should use it as it has a lot of options. I do use it and I find lots of things on the forum that I am actually looking for. I'd say this con is actually void.

The important conversations have been lost: if you keep any kind of important conversation on a gambling website, then I would say how you are, but I'm more than certain to get a warning/mute for using that word, but I'm pretty sure you got it why it isn't advised to discuss anything important in PMs on a platform as you can never know if this platform will or will not actually be bought tomorrow by *input random name here* and everything will be deleted and transformed into a puppet selling platform.

In the end, if I didn't convince you that it's actually an okay thing that they removed PMs and friends, then surely nobody will. I'd say that one feature that really deserves a comeback is the Levels with different backgrounds (if you aren't from 2017, you surely don't know what I'm talking about). It was actually fun betting and reaching achievements, I hunted those more than I am hunting VIP Level now.

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Wow such a long post ever there. May I short it in one sentence? Thanks.

If you have brains into right spot of your body, then you wouldn’t have any issues with scam/spam/beg and etc.

Edited by Owly

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It is want they think is the right thing to do..but, i do believe that they are soing something to get it back, but until they figure out a way to minimized the risk due to people taking advantages and all.

But, partly we have our responsibilities for our own accounts and we can ignore/unignore, maybe that did not help much.

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i just want the  ✌️ hands back that was only thing that let me see without reading through all the bullshit if there was anyone i knew in there....  of course Jeremy  🌈 had to start this 🏳️‍🌈 thread. :D

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6 hours ago, Demize said:

i just want the  ✌️ hands back that was only thing that let me see without reading through all the bullshit if there was anyone i knew in there....  of course Jeremy  🌈 had to start this 🏳️‍🌈 thread. :D

Wtf demize im gathering people for riots here ur ruining my thread muted

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On 6/29/2020 at 4:25 PM, skywallkee said:

At first, I also thought that this is a really bad idea, as people actually talk in private and have friends and so on, but after a little thought I came to the point where I figured that this is what the forum is for. I think this move can be good so that the platform remains for gambling whereas the forum remains for bonding and communicating. There still are private messages here if you really want to say something to someone so that you won't obey to any rule. I think forum's PMs are too underrated.

Now let's measure pros and cons of removing private messages from Stake platform:

Pros:

- removing the spamming

- removing the begging

- removing the scamming

- removing the advertising to other platforms or even phishing platforms

- making a contrast between Stake as a betting platform and Stake Forum as a social platform

Cons:

- harder to reach out to people

- some "important" conversations have been lost

And that's all I can came up with. Now, let's actually try to counter-argue them and see if they are actually valid:

Removing the spamming: people still can spam on chat/forum BUT they will be immediately deleted by the mods as they already did (PMs where just another place for them to spam, removing PMs won't give them another place to spam, just one place in minus); you might say, yeah, but they can spam PMs on forum too BUT you can actually report a PM on Forum and an Administrator/Moderator can see it and remove it. Now you might say that this means that PMs on Forum aren't as private as we might think. Well, I don't know how to say it, but even the PMs on the platform weren't private at all. They were private only to the normal users, but for sure if really wanted, Administrators could actually see them (if they didn't implement it on the platform, there still is the database, and finding some messages in a database can be done in a few seconds with an easy query). So I'd say this is a valid and strong point.

Removing the begging: now, people won't be able to beg anymore, under any way. Chat - mute, Forum - mute, PMs - report -> mute. It's simple and easy and can't be countered.

Removing scamming/advertising: again, people won't be able to do this as doing it in Chat - mute, Forum - mute/ban, PMs - report -> mute/ban.

The contrast between Stake and Forum: it was nice having a chat right under your nose, where you could click on the player and immediately talk to him, getting a response instantly without any problem. Well, yeah, BUT, firstly there are the things above, secondly, Forum has the exact same function. You can send someone a Private Message, you can actually find him with the search bar from the top of the forum (which I doubt many use it as it is actually a contract with the devil and you'd sell your soul if you check if the topic has already been posted, but that's another talk for another topic) and send multiple Private Messages under multiple "threads". This way, you can talk "business" in one PM Thread and talk "s*#t" in another PM Thread, keeping it organized and nice.

Harder to reach out to people: well, as I kind of said above, the search bar has been implemented and it's actually pretty nice and more people should use it as it has a lot of options. I do use it and I find lots of things on the forum that I am actually looking for. I'd say this con is actually void.

The important conversations have been lost: if you keep any kind of important conversation on a gambling website, then I would say how you are, but I'm more than certain to get a warning/mute for using that word, but I'm pretty sure you got it why it isn't advised to discuss anything important in PMs on a platform as you can never know if this platform will or will not actually be bought tomorrow by *input random name here* and everything will be deleted and transformed into a puppet selling platform.

In the end, if I didn't convince you that it's actually an okay thing that they removed PMs and friends, then surely nobody will. I'd say that one feature that really deserves a comeback is the Levels with different backgrounds (if you aren't from 2017, you surely don't know what I'm talking about). It was actually fun betting and reaching achievements, I hunted those more than I am hunting VIP Level now.

Oh my god. 

It was really just yesterday that these achievements were available on Stake accounts. 

Being preoccupied with the games at Stake (which were unlike anything I’d seen), I was having too much fun to explore the acheivements feature...

I remember it just disappeared one day, and left me wondering if it had even existed?! 😑

Stake has grown leaps and bounds since then, nonetheless there is no reason why we can’t suggest it to be implemented again? 😇

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