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Stake Originals Blackjack Rigged?


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I have played about fifteen sessions in the last two weeks and start with between $40 to $80 small bets. Only two sessions were profit every session dealer gets a lot of Bjs and 20s. The wins and losses after between 300 - 1000 hands always 10 - 35 more losses over wins. What is your experience playing Stake Originals BJ? The edge is 0.57% and I honestly will never play it again. Here is a screenshot of how bad the W/L ratio is.

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I find the stake original blackjack to be fine, I win my bets on there even if i go big. One game that i think does have a false house edge is blue samuri, i have maybe spun 500 times on there recently and my biggest multi being 20-30x. I know stake would not actually intend to have a false house edge but something feels off to me about this game.

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The Rigged is the Slide. I remember when 1.30 hit twice in a row. Means there is 2, 1.3 in there but when I refreshed there's only 1, 1.3 and besides is 1.7. and sometimes there is 13 times where the result is under 2

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I'll tell you without a sliver of doubt ALL stake originals are rigged so severely I wonder how it is that on twitch Eddie and crew come across as genuinely cool people. I've gambled enough and at enough venues to know when a game is fixed. Huge difference between bad luck and obviously manipulation of bets. Here's all you have to do to know I'm right, you ready???? Pick limbo for instance, have a good long session of betting small, say .25 - 1 dollar , go for some big multipliers, then have another long session betting $20 and up, do the same as the first session. Not one person on all of stake can tell me the sessions aren't 100% different . It's fucking near an impossibility to hit a decent multiplier with big bets. Period. I was so angry to learn that stake , whom I thought had some goddamned decency, will take your very hard earned money knowing that you can't win when you decide to gamble big. I've done this so many times. On every stake original same outcome. The numbers don't lie.   "Better luck next time!" Is infuriating when they absolutely know there isn't any luck involved. Anyone out there who says provably Fair is either on the stake bankroll or has their head buried in the sand. Over a certain $amount and you probably not going to hit a big multiplier. Someone prove me otherwise or what you say is mute. I must say I should have known that money corrupts absolutely. So all the things you may read about stake being transparent and fair ,in the end, no matter how you slice it, just bold faced lies. A true gambler understands "bad luck" and accepts it for what it is. What a true gambler can't accept is a rigged game. I'm sure you boys at stake are laughing all the way to the bank. But please don't feel proud, any thief can come out ahead.

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I agree that there is something not “quite right “ about stake originals…

I have over 98k blackjack hands on record.  My win rate of 42.9% is actually good, as the published win rate is 42.2% on wizardsofodds.  What kills me is that, outside of a few outstanding sessions, most sessions I run win rates of 35-40%, and the site inevitably slips in extended runs where I would lose 8-10 in a row, or have a win rate of 20% over 20-25 hands.

The long streaks have happened more frequently as I played more, almost as if the site has learned my betting style to optimally kill my bankroll.  When one of these killer streaks happen, it’s unbelievable runs of dealer BJ, 20’s or 21’s from starting hands of 5 or 6.  Nothing hurts more than seeing consecutive hands of dealer 5-6-Face or 6-5-face when you are already deep (10 hands+) in the negative progression.  These crazy dealer runs are what make me very suspicious of this site’s fairness.

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I can attest to this as well. Ive been playing on stake every single day for just about a year now, and i can say 1000% there’s nothing fair about these games. Ive never, everrr hit anything good while saying fuck it and trying higher bets than what i usually play and thats pretty unbelievable. When you play these games as much as i have you see the same shit happen over and over and over again. The same negative patterns. Theres nothing you can do about it doesnt matter what you bet what games you play what strategies you use, the fact of the matter is they decide when to let you win. I was at one point on a 2 month long losing streak and believe me i tried every possible game/strategy there was and couldnt make a single deposit last more than ten minutes. And its not like id win and be too stupid to stop and withdrawl, or win and withdrawl then redeposit an hour later and lose. Whenever i reach my goals or hit an unexpected big win i take my fucking money right out and stay away from stake for at least a couple weeks. And they know that i do this every time, which is why i get absolutely destroyed 99% of the time. Is it really so hard to believe that a site thats raking in the unbelievable amount of money that they are, doing all these “giveaways” and hiring all these ufc ambassadors etc, could be totally dishonest about the systems that control the outcomes of their games? The only people that truly win often here, are the sponsored streamers and high rollers because hey, they make the site the most money so of course you have to keep them happy.

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Yup same here for me too. It’s been so many times where when I increase my bet I can see the red coming. Limbo hunting 2x can bring 15 red streaks. Wheel at Low risk setting there’s 4 0.00x. The biggest bet I’ve made was on limbo I placed 1.08x after a long streak of reds and next it turned out to be 1.07x.Lol and this happened so many times when I’m left with my last bet before bust and prompts you to deposit. 
I’m really not sure about it being provably fair as it’s just a claim from stake but I’ve read that even with a provably fair system there are ways that casinos can get around them.

I’ve read online that stake normally fixes their problems when they started and treats their customers well but now it just feels that every problem we face and losing a bet due to a lag is our fault. They have absolutely 0 fault and pins it on you in any way they can think of. Ive wagered and lost so much with stake and even that they will not entertain any bet issues even though I have video evidence. So much for being a VIP.

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So yeah this happened…

Should have known after a bunch of double downs failed with me getting a small card and the dealer getting miracle 21’s…usually a portent of bad shit, then BOOM, 12 straight fucking losing hands. $5 base bet on Fibonacci system, busted.  FYI, 12 straight losses is 0.04% likelihood, and that’s after a couple 10 straight losses earlier in the evening that I had managed to dig myself out of.  Absolutely disgracefully sickening.

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I love stake and I'm not saying it's rigged with the following message. I'm just sharing my experience regarding this topic.

 

I've never had a BJ session of over 150 bets without a 7-15 loss streak, which is quite unbelievable actually. I think my worst overall session was 400 losses out of 520 bets. 

Another thing to note, is every time I decide to do a huge fuck everything all in, I get 20 or 21 and it always ends up losing or pushing and losing next bet. Just a weird pattern that keeps happening.

 

Lastly, I've worked for an online casino with pretty much the same provably fair system, and it wasn't actually foolproof. Results could easily be manipulated without the public finding out. I doubt either one (stake and the casino I worked at) actually did manipulate results, but it's far from impossible.

 

As I mentioned multiple times, I support stake. The only sketchy part is them advertising provably fair as literally 100% proof it's not manipulated in any way, when that just isn't true. I guess being honest would be bad publicity so I don't know what the right way to go about it is.

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