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6 hours ago, mmiikkee1520 said:

if you think prov fair is legit, you are either new to it, or you are very dumb.  ask yourself this, how many times have you hit 20 reds in a row on a 50/50 chance? I bet many many times.  how many times have you hit 20 greens in a row on a 50/50 chance? I bet ZERO

😂 😂 so if I understood correctly, Stake.com is not that legitimate as we see in the writing? But why some players manage to make magical winnings with very high odds like for example. I don't see it like that .... 😌 luck is luck, so if it's your turn of luck, take it and enjoy !! 😌

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8 minutes ago, GreyArea said:

The question I still have is about how the house edge is implemented and what it has to do with the outcome of the bet. I didn’t see anything on that link you sent me about how the house edge works on a bet. To my knowledge so far the stake originals games are all a RNG system basically but made a little different for each type of game to make the game play how it does. Other than that I just still don’t quite understand it all but I’m new to learning about this stuff and how it works. If you can tell me about the house edge part and how it works that would help me greatly. 
 

Thank You.

Well it's determined differently for different games due to the nature of the games.

For example, games that have a set number of outcomes like plinko or diamonds, you just add up all the outcomes and multiply them by the chances of each outcome.

For games where you set the odds like dice or limbo, it's either explained in the implementation where the house edge is used as a variable or displayed in the payouts. If you want to be paid even money in dice, you need to roll a 50.5.  If it were 50, the house edge would be 0. Here's Limbo:

// Game event translation with houseEdge of 0.99 (1%)

const floatPoint = 1e8 / (float * 1e8) * houseEdge;

// Crash point rounded down to required denominator

const crashPoint = Math.floor(floatPoint * 100) / 100;

// Consolidate all crash points below 1

const result = Math.max(crashPoint, 1);

 

(I know the comments use the word crash, but it's for limbo)

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this is like taking a dice and rolling the number 1 three times in a row and saying that the dice is weighted... the only difference is that on stake there is a house edge of around 1% (depends on the game). so in the long run you will inevitably loose money.

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Try this on.  I want one of you Stake fanboys out there to tell me that I was just unlucky, with SEVEN extended losing runs over 174 hands (minus pushes) and a 36.78% win rate as opposed to the expected 46%.  You won’t see the ass fucking details in this photo, but there are quite a few double down losses where I got a dick small card, only to see 5-6-Face from the dealer, over and over again.

 

Of course it’s provably fair…except they can engineer some lovely runs for themselves within the number sequence!

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10 minutes ago, henrycw said:

Try this on.  I want one of you Stake fanboys out there to tell me that I was just unlucky, with SEVEN extended losing runs over 174 hands (minus pushes) and a 36.78% win rate as opposed to the expected 46%.  You won’t see the ass fucking details in this photo, but there are quite a few double down losses where I got a dick small card, only to see 5-6-Face from the dealer, over and over again.

 

Of course it’s provably fair…except they can engineer some lovely runs for themselves within the number sequence!

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You were just unlucky.

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12 minutes ago, dupeddonk said:

You were just unlucky.

Fan boy #1.  Exactly the response I was waiting for. 😂

Who’s next?

I’m putting these really questionable runs on the forum, as there have been too many of them in my over 115k non push BJ hands with Stake.  Make your conclusions as you wish.

I stopped this sequence to verify my fate had I continued…there was a lovely 7 win 21 loss sequence still waiting for me right after the above.  Lucky escape? 🤷‍♂️

 

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3 hours ago, henrycw said:

Fan boy #1.  Exactly the response I was waiting for. 😂

 

Really nothing else you can say to someone that's crying after martingaling a few hundred hands of Black Jack.

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30 minutes ago, dupeddonk said:

Really nothing else you can say to someone that's crying after martingaling a few hundred hands of Black Jack.

Nope, never Martingale.  I use a modified Fibonacci now, after the site’s card sequences forced me to abandon a straight forward Fibonacci that had been very robust for land casinos.  What can you do if you go 17 deep into a negative progression with this site?

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You really wanna see something, 

Try this in dicebot and see what ends up happening to your luck percentage.. Whatever gets triggered you usually wont ever get back in profit no matter what until a bust. Shouldn't happen if provably fair is calculated how it says. 

const floatPoint = 1e8 / (float * 1e8) * houseEdge;? isn't a float point usually a changing variable such as relative balance's/edge ?


chance   = 60
basebet  = balance*0.005
counter  = 25
multi    = 1.225
randhilo = false


nextbet  = basebet
betcount = 0
target   = balance*1.0001

function dobet()
    
betcount+=1
    
if betcount>=counter then
    if balance>target then
        target   = balance*1.0001
        nextbet  = basebet
        betcount = 0
    else
        nextbet  = previousbet*multi
        betcount = 0
        --resetseed()
        --sleep(4000)
    end
end


print("-")
print("target:       " ..math.round((target)*100000000)/100000000)
print("remaining: " ..math.round((target-balance)*100000000)/100000000)

if randhilo then
    randomhilo()
end
 
function randomhilo()
    hl = math.random(10)
    if hl>5 then
        bethigh=true
    else
        bethigh=false
    end
end

end

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Well i keep triggering eternail rip streaks on dice even if now i dont raise anymore it still go 20+ fails on 4x on and on and on all day. I keep calling it on chat, people call it on forums and still 0 reaction which tells me they somehow feel so confident they can do that openly forever without consequences. And i can understand that kind of ridicule idea as the entire industry been operating like that for years (at least since i play). It's just that the new cryptocasinos took the idea and pushed to the extreme to rinse the whole community which they did. Twitch is dead, from hundred + friends that i would talk to regularly for years are gone. All real money streamers are rip and gone. Don't be fooled, there is not a single real streamer that stream every week with a regular schedule (without weeks and months break cauz rip) are all fake. They are either using fake money or are financed in a way or another by the casinos. There are some that do play "real money" but the money belongs to the casino so fuck that it's play money lol.

But when i see how much i rip in a year with my small bets, seeing these guys doing 10-100$+ bet is just beyond ridicule. It's not even funny anymore to laugh at such joke, it became depressing. I played for years just for fun, but the fun is gone. Well in fact the fun "was" gone as it's next stage now and it's just painful. Even on micro bet see the casino rinse all bets in a world record fashion every session gets me so mad. It just says a lot about the state of the world. I guess we get (humans) what we deserve.

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On 6/26/2021 at 5:04 AM, fredo386 said:

Well i keep triggering eternail rip streaks on dice even if now i dont raise anymore it still go 20+ fails on 4x on and on and on all day. I keep calling it on chat, people call it on forums and still 0 reaction which tells me they somehow feel so confident they can do that openly forever without consequences. And i can understand that kind of ridicule idea as the entire industry been operating like that for years (at least since i play). It's just that the new cryptocasinos took the idea and pushed to the extreme to rinse the whole community which they did. Twitch is dead, from hundred + friends that i would talk to regularly for years are gone. All real money streamers are rip and gone. Don't be fooled, there is not a single real streamer that stream every week with a regular schedule (without weeks and months break cauz rip) are all fake. They are either using fake money or are financed in a way or another by the casinos. There are some that do play "real money" but the money belongs to the casino so fuck that it's play money lol.

But when i see how much i rip in a year with my small bets, seeing these guys doing 10-100$+ bet is just beyond ridicule. It's not even funny anymore to laugh at such joke, it became depressing. I played for years just for fun, but the fun is gone. Well in fact the fun "was" gone as it's next stage now and it's just painful. Even on micro bet see the casino rinse all bets in a world record fashion every session gets me so mad. It just says a lot about the state of the world. I guess we get (humans) what we deserve.

Yep, Onto it.. 95% truth anyway..

 

And the no reaction in chat, funny that ..

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